Meta:Brainstorm

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Suggestions

• "Just make your own computer game/film/comic if you don't like that one!" (suggestion from another person) Thayvian (talk) 19:44, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
• "shaming and ostracism are evil" Thayvian (talk) 19:44, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
  • see also the relevant Geek Social Fallacy
• "his mental illness/divorce/loneliness/manpain made him do it" Thayvian (talk) 19:44, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
  • note: not to mock mental illness. or loneliness for that matter! that being said, reasons are not the same as excuses.
• "if we exclude abusers, they will never learn better" Thayvian (talk) 19:44, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
  • http://amptoons.com/blog/2011/12/28/on-change-and-accountability-a-response-to-clarisse-thorn/
• "the good he does outweighs his abuse" (or do we have this one?) Thayvian (talk) 19:45, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
• something about the difficulty of being expected to be an on-tap feminist/feminist educator at all times. and it's not just tiring, it can be threatening. Thayvian (talk) 19:58, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
• something about the difference between up and down (eg, comedy/parody aimed up and aimed down the power axis)
• A page enumerating some of the double binds that members of marginalized groups face. RickScott 21:12, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
• A page about alcohol and geekdom. There's stuff at Women-friendly events already but there's been a lot of writing lately and maybe it should therefore get its own page. Thayvian (talk) 23:59, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
  • http://old.ryanfunduk.com/culture-of-exclusion/ and I'm sure there's more? Thayvian (talk) 23:59, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
• The "You're not bringing this up through the right channels" silencing/derailing tactic. Either related to the tone argument, or a variant of it, I think. (example) RickScott (talk) 16:02, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
• Erasure. RickScott (talk) 02:14, November 28, 2013 (UTC)
• The erroneous phrasing of feminism as a power struggle of women vs. men, often held both by anti-feminists as a strawman argument and as genuine reality by uninformed outsiders, inexperienced beginners, and extremists. Usually crops up with three assumptions:
  • All/only men are oppressors: assumes the problem is with men instead of patriarchy and silences men, whether by assumption of inherent bad faith because of gender or as an attempt by anti-feminists to shame them from speaking (usually with labels such as "mangina", "pussy whipped", or the assumption that they're "just trying to get laid").
  • All/only women are feminists: ignores internalised sexism, gives undue credence to women purely for being women, and is used to disguise anti-feminist rhetoric just because the speaker is female.
  • Feminism doesn't care about men (or any other social group): ignores intersectionality, assumes equality is not a goal. Linked with the more extreme women want to oppress men, which conflates feminism with supremacy and oppression. - 166.70.207.2 21:33, December 1, 2013 (UTC)
• Semantic argument. While there are times when it's valid to discuss terminology, it mostly comes up as a derailment tactic and often delves into equivocation and the tone argument. Within most feminist writing, the definition of "sexism" is more specific than its general usage and this often turns into the semantic argument. While not feminism related, the biggest semantic argument on the internet is over the statement "piracy is theft". - 66.18.12.197 17:22, December 2, 2013 (UTC)
• Grooming and related behaviours, unfortunately including espousing feminism/ally-dom. Thayvian (talk) 22:58, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
  • Not only grooming potential victims, but their circles, and communities in general. Thayvian (talk) 23:03, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

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