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[[Richard Stallman]] gave a keynote at the [[Gran Canaria Desktop Summit]] in July 2009 in which he described "EMACS virgins" as "women who have never used EMACS" and said that it was a sacred duty to "relieve them of their virginity". This was one in a run of [[Sexualized presentations]] that have plagued [[Technical conferences]] throughout the year. It is also an example of negative assumptions on women's sexuality, and the idea that virginity is something to be ashamed of.
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[[Richard Stallman]] (RMS) gave a keynote at the [[Gran Canaria Desktop Summit]] in July 2009 in which he described "EMACS virgins" as "women who have never used EMACS" and said that it was a sacred duty to "relieve them of their virginity". This was one in a run of [[Sexualized presentations]] that have plagued [[Technical conferences]] throughout the year. It is also an example of negative assumptions on women's sexuality, and the idea that virginity is something to be ashamed of.
   
 
RMS emailed the GNOME Foundation and GNOME Women mailing lists on Nov 15, 2009 [http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-women-list/2009-November/msg00008.html acknowledging that the incident] had occurred, that people were discontented with the reference to women, but insisting that it was a just a misunderstanding. The email stated that since August, the skit has been altered:
 
RMS emailed the GNOME Foundation and GNOME Women mailing lists on Nov 15, 2009 [http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-women-list/2009-November/msg00008.html acknowledging that the incident] had occurred, that people were discontented with the reference to women, but insisting that it was a just a misunderstanding. The email stated that since August, the skit has been altered:
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In November 2009, Richard posted a non-apology to the GNOME Foundation and GNOME Women mailing lists, [http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-November/msg00010.html "For avoidance of misunderstandings"], which read in part:
 
In November 2009, Richard posted a non-apology to the GNOME Foundation and GNOME Women mailing lists, [http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-November/msg00010.html "For avoidance of misunderstandings"], which read in part:
   
:"Some of the people in the audience in my speech in the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit thought that my joke about the Virgin of Emacs wasintended to make some kind of statement about women... it was a misunderstanding: the only intended meaning of theCult of the Virgin of Emacs is to parody another Cult of the Virgin... To be abundantly clear, my views about women in connection with free software are simply that they deserve freedom in using computers, just as men do..."
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:"Some of the people in the audience in my speech in the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit thought that my joke about the Virgin of Emacs was intended to make some kind of statement about women... it was a misunderstanding: the only intended meaning of the Cult of the Virgin of Emacs is to parody another Cult of the Virgin... To be abundantly clear, my views about women in connection with free software are simply that they deserve freedom in using computers, just as men do..."
   
 
== Excuses ==
 
== Excuses ==
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
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Discussion of the incident became heated both in Lefty's blog comments and on other blogs. Many people tried to excuse RMS's behaviour. Some of the excuses include:
 
Discussion of the incident became heated both in Lefty's blog comments and on other blogs. Many people tried to excuse RMS's behaviour. Some of the excuses include:
   
* That Stallman did not make the alleged remarks, [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246732561569#c834726838398712224 here]
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* That Stallman did not make the alleged remarks<ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246732561569#c834726838398712224]</ref>
* That it was not his [[Intent]] to be sexist, [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246825379115#c5952521440100313011 here]
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* [[He didn't mean to|That it was not his intent to be sexist]], <ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246825379115#c5952521440100313011]</ref>
* That it was [[Sexist humor|humor]] -- Richard's own excuse, [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/emailing-richard-stallman.html here]
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* [[Just a joke|That it was humor]] -- Richard's own excuse<ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/emailing-richard-stallman.html]</ref>
* That it was making fun of religion, not women, [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246785395451#c1367797055540501929 here] and [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1096 here]
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* That it was making fun of religion, not women<ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246785395451#c1367797055540501929 here] and [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1096]</ref>
* [[He's just like that]], [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246928849063#c5508336317586803080 here] and [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1247143562613#c2019521115076734065 here]
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* [[He's just like that]]<ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246928849063#c5508336317586803080] and [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1247143562613#c2019521115076734065]</ref>
* That Richard has earned respect through his Free Software work, and his bad behaviour should therefore be ignored, [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246971262458#c4311942169896480811 here] and [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1113 here]
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* [[Let's focus on the worthwhile parts|That Richard has earned respect through his Free Software work, and his bad behaviour should therefore be ignored]],<ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246971262458#c4311942169896480811] and [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1113]</ref>
* That his judgement was impaired because he was worn out by arguing about Mono, [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246917080576#c3160595128949580347 here]
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* [[His judgement was impaired|That his judgement was impaired]] because he was worn out by arguing about Mono<ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246917080576#c3160595128949580347]</ref>
   
 
== Silencing tactics ==
 
== Silencing tactics ==
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Some [[silencing]] tactics have also been tried against his critics that don't so much excuse RMS as suggest that his critics should shut up:
 
Some [[silencing]] tactics have also been tried against his critics that don't so much excuse RMS as suggest that his critics should shut up:
   
* That the joke was sexist but the fuss about it is out of all proportion [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1079 here]
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* That the joke was sexist but [[You're over reacting|the fuss about it is out of all proportion]]<ref>[http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1079]</ref>
* People who have not made significant contributions to Free Software should not be allowed to comment, [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246983203822#c9076906386919614093 here]
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* [[Not an insider|People who have not made significant contributions to Free Software should not be allowed to comment]]<ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246983203822#c9076906386919614093]</ref>
* Only those directly affected by sexism may comment, allies may not [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1152 here]
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* [[Not a woman|Only those directly affected by sexism may comment, allies may not]]<ref>[http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1152]</ref>
* [[Lefty]]'s [[Allies|ally]] work is in itself [[Condescension|condescending]] towards women, [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1247482813435#c5648371602323448137 here]
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* [[Lefty]]'s [[All allies are white knights|ally work is in itself condescending towards women]]<ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1247482813435#c5648371602323448137]</ref>
* Implying that Lefty is [[Emasculation|less of a man]] because he is pro-feminist, [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246949506950#c696704549201365325 here]
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* Implying that Lefty is [[Emasculation|less of a man because he is pro-feminist]]<ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246949506950#c696704549201365325]</ref>
* The complaint is "whiny bullshit" and "attention-seeking", [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246934115307#c2379990891459228135 here]. For bonus points, "women should be left out in the cold, not just in the open source movement but in every job..."
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* The complaint is "whiny bullshit" and "[[You just want attention|attention-seeking]]"<ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246934115307#c2379990891459228135 here</ref>. For bonus points, "women should be left out in the cold, not just in the open source movement but in every job..."
* The complaint about sexism is just a disingenuous attempt to achieve another goal: silencing RMS's criticisms of the Mono programming framework [http://mjg59.livejournal.com/113401.html?thread=1434617#t1434617 here] and [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1075 here] and [http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/16/novell-puts-mono-center/ here]
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* [[Feminist arguments are just ploys|The complaint about sexism is just a disingenuous attempt to achieve another goal]]: silencing RMS's criticisms of the Mono programming framework<ref>[http://mjg59.livejournal.com/113401.html?thread=1434617#t1434617] and [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1075] and [http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/16/novell-puts-mono-center/]</ref>
* That allies [http://www.itwire.com/content/view/26405/1090/1/1/ had not commented] on certain other sexist incidents, as proof of the above.
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* That [[You missed one|allies had not commented on certain other sexist incidents]]<ref>[http://www.itwire.com/content/view/26405/1090/1/1/]</ref>, as proof of the above.
* The complaint about sexism was just someone (presumably Lefty) disguising his offence at the jokes about Christianity as a more acceptable complaint about sexism [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1109 here]
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* The complaint about sexism was just someone (presumably Lefty) disguising his offence at the jokes about Christianity as a more acceptable complaint about sexism<ref>[http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1109]</ref>
 
* Writing about this kind of thing is a waste of time and anyone serious about Open Source should be writing code [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1099 here]
 
* Writing about this kind of thing is a waste of time and anyone serious about Open Source should be writing code [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1099 here]
* That the attempt to include women in open source is "nonsense" and "creepy", and should be ignored, [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246734178908#c7055707493385929763 here]
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* That the attempt to include women in open source is "nonsense" and "creepy", and should be ignored, <ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246734178908#c7055707493385929763]</ref>
* [[Reverse sexism]], [http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246975202706#c5773148131325531624 here]
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* [[Reverse sexism]]<ref>[http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-gcds-beginning-with-significant.html?showComment=1246975202706#c5773148131325531624]</ref>
* Versions of this very list ([[Matt Zimmerman]] also made one in his blog) are "cherry-picking" and mischaracterising a real debate [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1071 here]
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* Versions of this very list ([[Matt Zimmerman]] also made one in his blog) are "cherry-picking" and mischaracterising a real debate<ref>[http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1071]</ref>
* Versions of this very list are merely [[Don't feed the trolls|encouraging trolls]], who should be ignored [http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1074 here]
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* Versions of this very list are merely [[Don't feed the trolls|encouraging trolls]], who should be ignored<ref>[http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/13/backlash-feminism-considered-harmful/#comment-1074]</ref>
 
* At Software Freedom Day 2009, an attendee asked Stallman to comment on this incident during a Q&A; Stallman responded, "The person who brought that up seems to be a troll-like enemy of the free software movement."
 
* At Software Freedom Day 2009, an attendee asked Stallman to comment on this incident during a Q&A; Stallman responded, "The person who brought that up seems to be a troll-like enemy of the free software movement."
   
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* [http://www.journalfen.net/community/unfunnybusiness/136218.html calling out sexism. Just like they did in Salem, Mass.!] by galateus: "It started when [[Richard Stallman|Richard M. Stallman]] gave a tongue-in-cheek speech at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit about the text-editor-worshiping 'church of Emacs'. The epic command-line text editor wars between emacs and vi would normally be entertaining, but... not this time."
 
* [http://www.journalfen.net/community/unfunnybusiness/136218.html calling out sexism. Just like they did in Salem, Mass.!] by galateus: "It started when [[Richard Stallman|Richard M. Stallman]] gave a tongue-in-cheek speech at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit about the text-editor-worshiping 'church of Emacs'. The epic command-line text editor wars between emacs and vi would normally be entertaining, but... not this time."
 
* [http://jonathancarter.co.za/2009/07/20/women-are-not-crazy/ Women are not crazy] by [[Jonathan Carter]]: "Some say that Richard Stallman’s joke was innocent and that it wasn’t meant as being discriminating. In my opinion, even if that’s the case, it was wrong to do so. It’s a known fact that there’s a very low ratio between female and male contributors to free software, and doing something that could alienate even a small percentage of female contributors is a big deal."
 
* [http://jonathancarter.co.za/2009/07/20/women-are-not-crazy/ Women are not crazy] by [[Jonathan Carter]]: "Some say that Richard Stallman’s joke was innocent and that it wasn’t meant as being discriminating. In my opinion, even if that’s the case, it was wrong to do so. It’s a known fact that there’s a very low ratio between female and male contributors to free software, and doing something that could alienate even a small percentage of female contributors is a big deal."
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Latest revision as of 18:33, 16 February 2015

Richard Stallman (RMS) gave a keynote at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit in July 2009 in which he described "EMACS virgins" as "women who have never used EMACS" and said that it was a sacred duty to "relieve them of their virginity". This was one in a run of Sexualized presentations that have plagued Technical conferences throughout the year. It is also an example of negative assumptions on women's sexuality, and the idea that virginity is something to be ashamed of.

RMS emailed the GNOME Foundation and GNOME Women mailing lists on Nov 15, 2009 acknowledging that the incident had occurred, that people were discontented with the reference to women, but insisting that it was a just a misunderstanding. The email stated that since August, the skit has been altered:

Misunderstanding is not a good outcome. To help avoid misunderstandings of this kind in the future, since August I have changed the joke so that the Virgin of Emacs can be of either sex.

Initial criticism and supporting documentation

David Lefty Schlesinger posted about this in a blog entry A Good GCDS Beginning (with a significant disappointment):

[Stallman defined] "EMACS virgins" as "women who had not been introduced to EMACS" along with the advice that "relieving them of their virginity" was some sort of sacred duty for members of "The Church of EMACS".

One commenter noted that the routine is a regular part of Stallman's talks but that the singling out of women as 'EMACS virgins' was new. Matthew Garrett has provided a transcript of a previous similar presentation by Richard at RMS and virgins:

"Then if you become a hacker you can celebrate that by having a foobar mitzvah, a ceremony in which the new hacker stands in front of the assembled congregation of hackers and chants through the lines of the system source code. And we also have the cult of the virgin of emacs. The virgin of emacs is any female who has not yet learned how to use emacs. And in the church of emacs we believe that taking her emacs virginity away is a blessed act."

A few days later Lefty emailed Richard expressing his concerns, and blogged the ensuing conversation. His original email included:

"Your remarks gave the distinct impression that you view women as being in particular need of technical assistance (presumably by men, since there's apparently no such thing as a _male_ "EMACS virgin"); additionally, women are quite capable of making their own decisions about who might relieve them of whatever sort of “virginity”. I (and many others) viewed these remarks as denigrating and demeaning to women, as well as completely out of place at what is, in essence, a technical conference."

The response claimed that the comments about women were intended as humour, and that the complainant was misunderstanding the joke. Richard refused to offer an apology.

"I do not believe I owe anyone an apology. I did not insult or attack them, but it is clear some people are attacking me. I think I am being criticized unjustly criticized, and I feel I have been wronged."

However, most of the response was about the Church of St IGNUtius and its potential offensiveness to religious people, which was just one of the issues Lefty was trying to raise. Lefty emailed again, reiterating the other points. Richard's response was that he had already dealt with them -- which he had not.

Responses to this blog post have focused on Richard's right to email privacy -- an example of Derailment -- rather than the original issue:

"Does RMS think all source code should be free, or his private e-mails as well??"
"Have exactly the same question. Any further discussion of political correctness is pointless before this question is answered, as you cannot seriously request polical correctness without respecting it yourself. Sounds fishy."

Video recordings of many of the talks at the summit are available at http://www.geeksoc.org/gcds/, but as of 24 July 2009, Richard's keynote is not available.

Stallman's statement

In November 2009, Richard posted a non-apology to the GNOME Foundation and GNOME Women mailing lists, "For avoidance of misunderstandings", which read in part:

"Some of the people in the audience in my speech in the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit thought that my joke about the Virgin of Emacs was intended to make some kind of statement about women... it was a misunderstanding: the only intended meaning of the Cult of the Virgin of Emacs is to parody another Cult of the Virgin... To be abundantly clear, my views about women in connection with free software are simply that they deserve freedom in using computers, just as men do..."

Excuses

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Discussion of the incident became heated both in Lefty's blog comments and on other blogs. Many people tried to excuse RMS's behaviour. Some of the excuses include:

Silencing tactics

Some silencing tactics have also been tried against his critics that don't so much excuse RMS as suggest that his critics should shut up:

Responses

  • Gran Canaria Desktop Summit 2009 by Matt Zimmerman: "This keynote was the least interesting of the talks I attended at GCDS... He did his Saint IGNUcius routine, throwing in a sexist joke for good measure."
  • Simple conference organisation suggestion by Matthew Garrett: "don't invite RMS to keynote at your conference without an explicit apology and expression of understanding beforehand. I'm seriously at the end of my patience with people being unwilling to call others on behaviour they perceive as unacceptable."
  • Richard Stallman and his fans by Livejournal user "certifiedwaif": "Do blog posts like this just bring out the worst commenters, or is this representative? They seem much more concerned about Richard Stallman's right to email privacy than appropriate conduct at a technical conference that both men and women are attending."
  • All hail the windmill tilters by Christian Schaller: "And before someone starts shouting at me for not realizing that sexism do exist in the open source world, please save yourself the energy. I am sure it exist, along with racism, anti-semitism, bigotry, general intolerance, gay and lesbian hating, supremacism, communism or whatever evil you want to come up with. I just don’t buy into using them as the default fallback whenever the reason for something needs to be explained." (In fairness, Christian has added a comment indicating that "a longer conversation with a female coworker about the issue and her relating her experiences is causing me to re-evaluate my stance on how much sexism there actually is in the community in general.")
  • Permission to suck by Abi Sutherland: "So one thing women in Open Source—or anyone who is a minority in a skills-based group—need is Permission to Suck. They need the understanding, from themselves and others, that any and all suckitude is to their account alone, just like it is for the majority."
  • Backlash: feminism considered harmful by Matt Zimmerman: "We have a problem in the way that women in free software are regarded and treated... What I want to discuss here, though, is how people are received when they speak up about this, for example by criticizing sexist behavior they have observed. Often, the problem is denied, the critic themselves is personally attacked, and the victims are blamed. In short, there is a backlash."
  • RMS and virgins by Matthew Garrett: "My point here isn't to claim that [RMS]'s a bad person as a result. I've got personality flaws large enough that you could probably drive a bus through them, but I'd be slightly upset if people thought I was evil because of them. My point is that nobody is above criticism, and if someone behaves in a way that offends a large subset of the community then they should to be criticised. Failing to do so sends the signal that we don't care about those who were offended, and at the same time provides no incentive for people to change their behaviour as a result. And yes, I think those who have high profile positions in the community should be held to higher standards than others..."
  • RMS’ emacs “virgins” by Chani: "so… I didn’t comment on this little incident, even though I knew I should. I mean, it’s RMS, I don’t really expect him to change. and it’s easier to just ignore it and pretend it didn’t happen. thankfully, lefty tackled the issue for us. ok, publishing private mail is rude, but I’m glad he did. the comments section makes me sad… btw, I have never heard of this “cult of the virgin of mary”. I interpreted RMS’ speech the same way lefty did, I was just too shy to speak up about it."
  • "Join us now" indeed. by Jamie Zawinski. "You stay classy, RMS."
  • calling out sexism. Just like they did in Salem, Mass.! by galateus: "It started when Richard M. Stallman gave a tongue-in-cheek speech at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit about the text-editor-worshiping 'church of Emacs'. The epic command-line text editor wars between emacs and vi would normally be entertaining, but... not this time."
  • Women are not crazy by Jonathan Carter: "Some say that Richard Stallman’s joke was innocent and that it wasn’t meant as being discriminating. In my opinion, even if that’s the case, it was wrong to do so. It’s a known fact that there’s a very low ratio between female and male contributors to free software, and doing something that could alienate even a small percentage of female contributors is a big deal."

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