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The CouchDB talk was a talk given at the [[Golden Gate Ruby Conference]] in April 2009 by [[Matt Aimonetti]]. It featured innuendo about porn and soft porn pictures, an example of a [[sexualized environment]].
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The CouchDB talk was a talk given at the [[Golden Gate Ruby Conference]] in April 2009 by [[Matt Aimonetti]]. It featured innuendo about porn and soft porn pictures, an example of a [[sexualized environment]] and just one in an ongoing list of [[Sexualized presentation]]s.
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One slide of the talk featured (CW: sexually explicit image) [[:File:Couchdb.jpg|this image]] of the buttocks of a woman wearing only a thong.
   
 
== Documentation ==
 
== Documentation ==
   
* [http://www.slideshare.net/mattetti/couchdb-perform-like-a-pr0n-star?type=presentation Aimonetti's presentation on slideshare]
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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20090427135143/http://www.slideshare.net/mattetti/couchdb-perform-like-a-pr0n-star?type=presentation Aimonetti's presentation on SlideShare] -- this has been made "private" as of February 2 2010, and Aimonetti has contacted people who had posted screenshots, asking them to take them down.
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* [http://ompldr.org/vNWNrNg/gogaruco-couchdb-090418194027-phpapp02.pdf PDF copy of the presentation] downloaded by a [http://web.archive.org/20120818012452/flayoo.posterous.com/couchdb-perform-like-a-pr0n-star user] before it was taken down from SlideShare.
 
* Sarah Allen described the talk at [http://www.ultrasaurus.com/sarahblog/2009/04/gender-and-sex-at-gogaruco/ gender and sex at gogaruco]
 
* Sarah Allen described the talk at [http://www.ultrasaurus.com/sarahblog/2009/04/gender-and-sex-at-gogaruco/ gender and sex at gogaruco]
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* [http://blog.hasmanythrough.com/2009/4/29/not-the-post Apology from conference chair]
   
 
== Responses ==
 
== Responses ==
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* [http://hackety.org/2009/04/29/aSelectionOfThoughtsFromActualWomen.html hackety.org highlights women's responses]
 
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=== Critical ===
* [http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/?p=46 Sarah Mei] documents Aimonetti's unapologetic response
 
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The following responses are critical of the presentation, or of the Ruby community's culture:
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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20090502153736/http://hackety.org/2009/04/29/aSelectionOfThoughtsFromActualWomen.html hackety.org highlights women's responses]
 
* [http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/?p=46 Sarah Mei] documents Aimonetti's unapologetic response (lots of good stuff in the comments too)
 
* [http://blog.nicksieger.com/articles/2009/04/30/stand-and-be-counted Nick Sieger], [http://tieguy.org/blog/2009/04/30/thoughtlessness-in-open-source/ Luis Villa] and [http://martinfowler.com/bliki/SmutOnRails.html Martin Fowler] write in support of the women complainants.
 
* [http://blog.nicksieger.com/articles/2009/04/30/stand-and-be-counted Nick Sieger], [http://tieguy.org/blog/2009/04/30/thoughtlessness-in-open-source/ Luis Villa] and [http://martinfowler.com/bliki/SmutOnRails.html Martin Fowler] write in support of the women complainants.
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* [http://lizkeogh.com/2009/04/29/i-am-not-a-pr0n-star-avoiding-unavoidable-associations/ I am not a pr0n star: avoiding unavoidable associations] (Liz Keogh)
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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20090430134917/http://afreshcup.com/2009/04/28/a-painful-decision/ A painful decision] Mike Gunderloy resigns from Ruby Activism
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: "suffice it to say that a significant number of Rails core contributors – with leadership (if that’s the right word) from DHH – apparently feel that being unwelcoming and “edgy” is not just acceptable, but laudable. The difference between their opinions and mine is so severe that I cannot in good conscience remain a public spokesman for Rails."
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* [http://archive.today/2009.04.29-044522/http://www.rubyrailways.com/rails-is-still-a-ghetto/ Rails is still a ghetto] Peter Szinek
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: "The trick is, how does a hindu feel when I enter a temple in footwear (even if that is perfectly acceptable in my country, culture, family, friends) - it’s perfectly irrelevant how do I feel in the given situation."
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* [http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/04/30/Unhappy-Ruby Unhappy Ruby] (Tim Bray)
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: "When you offend people but didn’t mean to, you should just fucking well apologize. And do it in an unreserved way, unless you think that offending them is a good thing and will produce a result that you’re in favor of."
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* [http://blog.hasmanythrough.com/2009/4/29/not-the-post Not the post] Josh Susser, conference chair of GoGaRuCo, apologises.
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: " I haven't yet figured out the best way to prevent this from happening again, but I'm determined to find a way to do better next time. ... And to be clear, I don't think Matt's talk was appropriate for a professional conference."
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* [http://www.bofh.org.uk/2009/04/28/another-conference-season-another-dumb-sexist Another conference season, another dumb sexist] Piers Cawley
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: "Apparently, the difference between 80s truck salesmen and Matt’s audience is that at least 80s salesmen had the grace to look embarrassed."
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* [http://archive.today/2013.10.15-074754/http://www.vitarara.org/cms/just_say_youre_sorry_already Just say you're sorry already] Mark Menard
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: "Unfortunately Matt you haven't apologized yet. Please just say you're sorry already. You've acknowledged you made a mistake. You say you didn't mean to offend. You also admit you failed. But you still haven't said you're sorry for it."
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[[Category: Incidents]]
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[[Category:Ruby]]
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[[Category:2009]]
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[[Category:Sexualized presentation hall of shame]]
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=== Supportive ===
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[[File:PornPresentationBingo.png|300px|right|thumb|Bingo card - have this ready when reading these posts]]
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The following responses either support the presentation, or don't see why people should be upset by it:
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* [http://merbist.com/2009/04/28/on-engendering-strong-reactions/ On Engendering Strong Reactions] (the presenter blogs about his presentation)
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: "The topic of my talk was obvious, and I would have hoped that people who were likely to be offended would have simply chosen not to attend my talk or read my slides on the internet. It’s like complaining that television has too much material unsuitable for children, yet not taking steps to limit their viewing of it. You can’t have it both ways." -- translation: women should stay away from technical conferences -- or, hell, the whole industry! -- if they don't like being bombarded with porn.
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* [http://archive.today/2013.06.25-012232/http://david.heinemeierhansson.com/posts/39-im-an-r-rated-individual I'm an R Rated Individual] (David Heinemeier Hansson, creator of Rails)
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* [http://archive.today/2013.01.11-060831/http://david.heinemeierhansson.com/posts/40-alpha-male-programmers-arent-keeping-women-out Alpha Male programmers aren't keeping women out] (ditto)
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: "I think that the world of programming could be much more interesting if more women were part of it. I wish I knew how to make that happen. If I find out, I'll be the first to champion it." -- uh, how about not supporting porn in presentations at ruby conferences?
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* [http://www.quirkey.com/blog/2009/04/27/the-ghetto-of-the-mind/ The ghetto of the mind]
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: "My frustration and anger did not stem from being offended by Matt’s talk, nor did it stem from thinking that everyone who was offended was wrong. It came from a gut reaction to all this horrible negativity thats spreading like wildfire."
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=== Mixed messages/indeterminate ===
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* [http://archive.today/2009.05.02-144452/http://www.renaebair.com/2009/04/27/perform-like-a-frag-star/ Perform like a Frag Star]
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: "I don’t think the Ruby community needs to submit to supporting PC rhetoric." ... "It’s not a matter of offensiveness or professionalism, it comes down to not being a douche bag."
 
[[Category: Incidents]]
 
[[Category: Incidents]]
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[[Category:Ruby]]
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[[Category:2009]]
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[[Category:Sexualized presentation hall of shame]]

Latest revision as of 22:00, 6 August 2020

The CouchDB talk was a talk given at the Golden Gate Ruby Conference in April 2009 by Matt Aimonetti. It featured innuendo about porn and soft porn pictures, an example of a sexualized environment and just one in an ongoing list of Sexualized presentations.

One slide of the talk featured (CW: sexually explicit image) this image of the buttocks of a woman wearing only a thong.

Documentation

Responses

Critical

The following responses are critical of the presentation, or of the Ruby community's culture:

"suffice it to say that a significant number of Rails core contributors – with leadership (if that’s the right word) from DHH – apparently feel that being unwelcoming and “edgy” is not just acceptable, but laudable. The difference between their opinions and mine is so severe that I cannot in good conscience remain a public spokesman for Rails."
"The trick is, how does a hindu feel when I enter a temple in footwear (even if that is perfectly acceptable in my country, culture, family, friends) - it’s perfectly irrelevant how do I feel in the given situation."
"When you offend people but didn’t mean to, you should just fucking well apologize. And do it in an unreserved way, unless you think that offending them is a good thing and will produce a result that you’re in favor of."
  • Not the post Josh Susser, conference chair of GoGaRuCo, apologises.
" I haven't yet figured out the best way to prevent this from happening again, but I'm determined to find a way to do better next time. ... And to be clear, I don't think Matt's talk was appropriate for a professional conference."
"Apparently, the difference between 80s truck salesmen and Matt’s audience is that at least 80s salesmen had the grace to look embarrassed."
"Unfortunately Matt you haven't apologized yet. Please just say you're sorry already. You've acknowledged you made a mistake. You say you didn't mean to offend. You also admit you failed. But you still haven't said you're sorry for it."

Supportive

PornPresentationBingo

Bingo card - have this ready when reading these posts

The following responses either support the presentation, or don't see why people should be upset by it:

"The topic of my talk was obvious, and I would have hoped that people who were likely to be offended would have simply chosen not to attend my talk or read my slides on the internet. It’s like complaining that television has too much material unsuitable for children, yet not taking steps to limit their viewing of it. You can’t have it both ways." -- translation: women should stay away from technical conferences -- or, hell, the whole industry! -- if they don't like being bombarded with porn.
"I think that the world of programming could be much more interesting if more women were part of it. I wish I knew how to make that happen. If I find out, I'll be the first to champion it." -- uh, how about not supporting porn in presentations at ruby conferences?
"My frustration and anger did not stem from being offended by Matt’s talk, nor did it stem from thinking that everyone who was offended was wrong. It came from a gut reaction to all this horrible negativity thats spreading like wildfire."

Mixed messages/indeterminate

"I don’t think the Ruby community needs to submit to supporting PC rhetoric." ... "It’s not a matter of offensiveness or professionalism, it comes down to not being a douche bag."